DATING TIPS MAILBAG: Approaching Women And Starting Conversations
By David DeAngelo
***QUESTION***
Hi, Dave.
I've recently separated after 13 years of
marriage and was pretty nervous about the dating
scene. I was immediately thinking of all the wussy
stuff you're "supposed" to do on a first date and
to attract a woman. By chance, I got on your
mailing list, and you answered the questions I had
at the perfect time. I realized that I need to do
the same thing I've been doing with women for the
past 13 years--tease them and be funny. I was never
interested in dating my female friends, and I
treated them as buddies, and they always chatted
and danced with me at parties and told my wife she
was lucky to have a guy like me. Thanks to you, I
know that I can keep being my cocky and funny self
and I have a better chance of meeting women than by
fawning over them. The preliminary flirting and
meeting I've done so far has been good practice for
me--I've gotten a few numbers, but more important,
have been learning from my mistakes when I don't
get one, and I'm going to get your ebook to learn
even more so the mistakes become less frequent.
I do have a question though. I have been skimming
the online dating sites, and I find that over 90%
of the women's profiles say they're looking for a
nice guy who will spend romantic evenings with them
and be caring and attentive and all the "wussy"
stuff you decry. What gives? Does it make a
difference that the online women are looking for
long-term relationships and want something more
stable, or are they fooling themselves and asking
for something they're really not attracted to but
think they should be?
Thanks again for you help! You saved me from the
Sahara Desert of Dating.
R.B.
Chicago, IL
>>>MY COMMENTS:
Yes!
You've asked one of my favorite questions of all
time...
You're basically asking “Why is it that women all
say that they want a guy who acts like a WUSSY?”.
And more importantly, why is it that women
actually RESPOND to something totally different?
Here it is in a nutshell:
We humans have NO IDEA what we REALLY want.
We THINK that we know what we want, but we don't.
We come into this world pre-programmed with all
kinds of bizarre drives and desires... but many
of them are so strange that our cultures and
religions have made these natural drives “wrong”.
Now, when you have a desire for something that
is “wrong”, what are you going to do?
You can't exactly run around saying “I want the
thing that everyone thinks is wrong”.
Of course not.
You'd be put in a looney bin and forced to take
all kinds of medication.
Either that or you'd be a rock star.
Whatever.
Look... I spent MANY YEARS of my life trying
to get women to like me by kissing up to them,
being “nice”, buying them thoughtful gifts,
taking them nice places, and generally being
a complete WUSSBAG.
Did it work?
Not so well.
Or course, I just figured that the reason that
it wasn't working so well was because I wasn't
good-looking or rich enough.
Only after spending a lot of time learning from
guys who were “naturally” good with women did I
begin to see what was REALLY going on.
The fact is that if you ask most women what they
want in a man, they'll tell you that they want
a “nice guy”. They want someone who is “A good
communicator”. They want someone who is kind,
thoughtful, and generous.
I have a theory about this.
It's a dangerous idea, though.
I think that most women say that they want a
nice, ass-kissing, Wussy guy because...
...sit down for this...
THEY CAN'T FIND ANY REAL MEN IN
THE WORLD, SO THEY DECIDE THAT
THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO SETTLE
FOR “NICE”.
So stop paying attention to all this stuff
that women SAY that they want, and start doing
the things I'm teaching you and getting
RESULTS.
Thanks for your email. Good stuff.
***QUESTION***
hey my girl lives in wisconsin i aint see in her a
while shes comin bac tommow and possibly movin in
wit her cousin 2 blocks from my house im nervous
what do i do
>>>MY COMMENTS:
Well, if I read your email right, I gather:
1) You are not so sharp with words.
2) Your “girl” is also from Wisconsin.
3) She's moving in with her cousin, which tells
me that they're probably getting married.
4) That doesn't surprise me, based on your email.
If I were you, I'd go back to high school...
Until then, use the spell-check feature on your
email or word processor.
Please.
***SUCCESS STORY***
Dear David,
David DeAngelo, you are truly a GENIUS! No,
seriously, I love your work! I'm writing to you
from South Africa for two reasons. Firstly, I have
to thank you!
I have always been a jock. I was able to get almost
any girl I wanted! There were, however, those
elusive few, the cream of the crop, that would
never fall for my charms. For heaven's sake, no
matter what I tried, I just did not make the
breakthrough! I was sure that I would forever have
to do with less than I really wanted.
For anyone listening out there: NEVER settle for
less! Rather read THE BOOK! I've been teasing,
joking, telling girls what to do, what I want,
prefer and absolutely need, what is wrong with them
(Jokingly of course), what they're doing that
irritates me, basically saying and doing just what
I want in a C & F way. Suddenly the elusive few are
like putty in my hands, telling me how DIFFERENT
(!!!) I am and how GOOD(???) I treat them! They
even tell me that I am "THE SWEETEST GUY EVER"!
(This after doing everything possible to bust their
balls!?). IT'S UNBELIEVABLE! They ask ME for MY
number (When I obviously tell them please not to
call me too much or ask whether they're always this
eager or to please take it a bit slower) and what's
more, they call ME, almost every time! Even their
unknown friends call me. I am having the TIME OF MY
LIFE, and I'm ENJOYING IT EXTREMELY! My utmost
thanks again, David, you changed me from good to
masterful.
Now for the second reason: Everyone that's reading
this letter, BUY THE BOOK! I also have a lot of
experience in chatting up girls, I have tried a lot
of approaches, and David DeAngelo's stuff is so far
THE MOST SUCCESSFUL! I love you, man. Keep it up.
PS. Read the book, "GET IT", use it, become
amazing!!!
W.A. , Pretoria, South Africa.
>>>MY COMMENTS:
Ah yes... it's amazing how these concepts will help
you take your success with women to the next level,
no matter where you're at now.
I get a lot of email from guys who are handsome,
successful, etc. who are finally enjoying success
with women... now that they're learning the most
important part of the equation.
Thanks for your email.
***SUCCESS STORY***
Hey David D,
I got your Advanced CD series and it opened my
eyes to a TOTALLY different way of thinking. It's
not just about pick up lines or techniques, you
really get into the psychology and evolution of why
things happen and why we think the way we do...it's
really deep, I enjoyed it...I listened to the whole
thing in 3 days...really and I'm listening to it
more and more. What I like about it is that I can
hear you and your voice tone when delivering some
of the techniques and answering questions from guys
who have common problems...I love it. I got it off
of the free trial offer and no way am I sending it
back. It's deeper than anything I've ever heard and
talks about ATTRACTION, which is a subject no one
ever talks about when it comes to women yet its the
most important part. If she's attracted to you,
you're in, if she's not, you're out...simple! Thats
part of my success, feeling better that I finally
"get it" and starting to see the light. Something
you said made a LOT of sense...either you get it or
you dont. If you get it, you'll see success, if you
dont, you wont. With that said, I want to share
some cocky+funny lines I've come up with on my own
that work well for me:
"Hey, those are nice shoes. Too
bad some homeless kid is running around barefoot
right now!"
"Those are some pretty earrings. I didnt know the
toy store sold earrings like that!"
"What a cute ring (or watch or whatever)! Did you
get that with the kids meal at (fill in your local
restaurant here)?
(I cant believe this one works...) Like if a woman
says something that SHOULD be obvious to everyone
else you say: "Duh!...You're acting more blonde by
the minute". And if the girl really is blonde, you
can say: "Hey, I thought everyone knew that! You
dont have to ACT blonde you know!" This is really
pushing it but it works on most women.
Anyhow, I'll be out with some friends using your
stuff like on the waitresses when we go out. For
instance, once the waitress asked to put my left
over hot wings in a to-go box. I said "Ok, but you
better not put any of my bones in there!" She said:
"Ok, I'll put your bones in there then". (obviously
playing along) She comes back and I check the box
right in front of her and say: "Let's see if
there's bones in here...hmm" But she knew I was
playing. So, it comes time for me to pay the bill
and she hands me my bill but as I reach for it, she
holds onto it and wont give it to me, then she
finally does. She says: "Are you ready to pay?" And
I said: "Be patient! Geez, all you women want is my
money...where are the normal women at?" My friend
next to me says: "What are you doing? Dont say
that! Thats mean!" (he and people that say that
obviously dont "get it"...he tried to get her
attention by being nice ad offering her gifts
earlier and it didnt work) I knew it worked because
on my way out she stopped to say "bye". I didnt get
her digits because I wasn't interested but I said to
myself..."Boy, this stuff works!" I was happy too
because at first I was blind, but now I can see,
halleluah and amen!
I felt so good, I just wanted to share that with
you, hopefully help some of our other guys out
there.
Thanks Dave!
GT from TN
>>>MY COMMENTS:
Yeahhhh baby.
Now you're starting to understand what's going on.
Here's a quick story for you...
I was in Phoenix this weekend visiting some good
friends of mine.
We went out to a restaurant together.
There were seven of us total.
We were all sitting in a huge booth, and I was
all the way on the inside. In other words, I
was as far as I could have been from the
waitress, and I had to yell over everyone else
at the table to talk to her.
She walked up to the table to take our drink
order. She was wearing this dark outfit...
I think her shirt was dark green, and her
skirt was black.
With it, she had on a PINK BELT.
So just as she walks up, before anyone had a
chance to say ANYTHING to her, I yelled out:
“I really like the way your belt ties the
whole outfit together.”
Of course, I said it in a sarcastic tone.
Now, most of the people at the table (all
guys) didn't even get it. They just kind
of smiled and looked at me with the “What
was that?” look.
As the evening went on, I continued to make
fun of her whenever I could (keep in mind,
I had to yell over everyone to do it, and
when I was making fun of her, everyone at
the table had to hear it).
By the way, this girl was 20 years old, and
pretty cute.
Now, as the evening went on, most of the guys
at the table started to get a little bit
nervous about what I was doing.
I mean, this girl was actually starting to act
like she was upset a few times at what I said
to her.
I was really pushing the envelope.
Toward the end of the meal, the guy sitting
across from me began to ask me questions about
what I do.
Another friend of mine had told him that I
write about women and dating, and he wanted to
hear about some of my theories.
This particular gentleman is a very successful
businessman. He's been a millionaire for over
20 years, as it turns out.
I began by explaining to him that most guys tend
to “kiss up” to women, chase them around, and
do things to demonstrate that they're “nice”...
but that most men never consider the fact that
women feel a powerful emotional and physical
ATTRACTION to something totally different.
I told him that the thing that made women feel
ATTRACTION was often teasing, busting on, and
being difficult with women...
...and I went on to share some of my other
theories with him.
At one point, I even told him that if you have
the guts to ANTAGONIZE a women in a playful
way, you can sometimes make her feel such a
powerful attraction to you that she doesn't
even know what to do.
This guy was looking at me as if I was CRAZY.
He was watching me tease this waitress, and
seeing her act upset and offended at the things
I was saying.
He was totally convinced that what I was doing
was making this girl HATE me.
All the other guys at the table were convinced
of the same thing.
Even my friends who KNEW me didn't think that
this girl liked me.
So what happened?
At the end of the meal, after she brought over
the check, she walked around the end of the
booth so she could talk to me alone...
Then she reached over, pulled my hair...
AND HANDED ME A NOTE WITH HER NUMBER.
No, I didn't ask for it.
No, I wasn't even interested in her.
Of course, all the guys at the table were
stunned... ESPECIALLY the older successful
guy sitting across from me that thought I
was crazy.
It was a good time.
Thought you'd enjoy the story...
***QUESTION***
I have been reading your mailbags for quite
sometime now and after reading your book, I'm a
little confused. You always said not to be a wuss,
but you mentioned in your ebook about opening doors
and pulling out chairs and doing other nice things
when you go for coffee or something. Isn't that
being a wuss? Please break it down for me.
J
Chicago, IL
>>>MY COMMENTS:
Great question.
Let me explain.
There is a concept known as “Chivalry”.
Now, there is much debate about what chivalry
actually MEANS...
But most people describe chivalry loosely as
“Being a perfect gentleman, demonstrating perfect
manners, and acting courteous towards women”.
Incidentally, the word was originally a French
word that meant “horseman”, and it has a lot of
associations with knighthood.
The image of a dark, handsome knight coming to
rescue a princess who is in distress will give
you an idea of how it all fits together.
Now, the PROBLEM comes when men begin to
CONFUSE “chivalry” with “ass kissing”.
You've probably heard me say that most women
know EXACTLY what “sexual tension” is, and
most men have no idea.
Same thing is true when it comes to chivalry.
Most women know EXACTLY what it is, and most
men are so confused that they would actually
be better off if they knew NOTHING AT ALL.
If you could build a miracle device that
could magically go inside the minds of a
thousand women and create a picture of what
they all thought “chivalry” was, here's what
I think you'd find...
An image of a strong, masculine, adventurous
man... one who needs nothing... one who is
very driven towards his own personal goals in
life... one who RADIATES sexual confidence...
...and then you'd see him doing certain things
like opening a door for a lady, pulling out
her chair, walking on the outside of the curb
to protect her, etc.
What you WOULD NOT EVER see is a weak, ass-
kissing, apologetic, unmotivated, approval-
seeking man who is opening doors and pulling
out chairs to IMPRESS a woman.
Chivalry is ALL ABOUT the MAN doing the
chivalrous things, not about the things he's
doing.
In these newsletters you see a lot of letters
from guys who write in to say “I don't like
the idea of teasing women, being Cocky & Funny,
and all the other things you say. I'm a NICE
guy. What happened to being a GOOD GUY? What
happened to BEING YOURSELF and having a woman
like you for who you are?”.
I'll tell you what happened to it.
IT NEVER EXISTED.
It's a fantasy, just like the Easter Bunny,
dude.
Here's a riddle for you.
Why is it that when you always put your own
needs aside, put a woman on a pedestal, and
do whatever she wants, a woman is annoyed?
And why is it that when you put your own
needs first, play “hard to get”, and give
women a major CHALLENGE she says things
like “You're so nice”?
Answer:
WHO CARES!
The fact is that this is the reality we all
live in. And it's time to get with the
program, and do what works, rather than
sitting around telling yourself that you're
right and everyone else is wrong.
This was a great email... it probably deserves
a newsletter dedicated to this topic alone.
I'll see what the feedback is on this particular
comment, and maybe we'll do it sometime.
***COMMENT***
Your stories just seem 'too' tuned (made-up) to
tell 'men' what they want to hear. As you said
'men' are too nice therefore naive! I have my own
techniques and one things for sure - BEING TOO NICE
IS NOT THE WAY! (Only on ugly or desperate women,
right?) Yes!
At least give a few examples instead of telling
guys what they wanna hear then I MAY consider
buying a DVD.
>>>MY COMMENTS:
Bite me.
I don't tell guys “what they want to hear”.
I tell guys what they NEED to hear.
I'm a pain in the ass, man.
And I don't really care whether or not you buy
my DVD program. In fact, please don't.
One thing that we both agree on...
Being “too nice” isn't the way with women.
***SUCCESS STORY***
Dave,
I used the most simple technique to test your
methods and was absolutely AMAZED at the results.
Simply put, I am in a bar and see a beautiful
blonde and say to her "I love the dress, but your
hair looks like s@#$". She immediately starts
playing with her hair and runs into the bathroom.
She comes out 20 minutes later and and asks me how
it looks now, which I say "better". She walks away
and talks to her friends, only to come back to me
10 minutes later to sit down and flirt with me.
After a while she goes back to talk to her friends,
and then comes back to me again and says "you are
adorable" and keeps staring at me. She was
absolutely 100% attracted to me. She kept looking
at me in a crazed sort of way that I NEVER
experienced after all of those years being a
"nice guy". A beautiful woman was practically
stalking me and all I ever said was that her
hair looked bad. That's all it took. THAT was
incredible!
EK
St. Petersburg, FL
>>>MY COMMENTS:
lol...
You know, I'm afraid that this newsletter is
going to have guys running out all over the
world to insult women.
If you're reading this right now, make sure you
are VERY FAMILIAR with the principles of being
Cocky & Funny, the voice tone and body language
involved, etc. before you attempt to use it.
If you choose to avoid this advice, you're very
likely to get yourself slapped.
...which is probably what you need anyway.
Where do you learn this stuff? Try my eBook and
my Advanced Series.
By the way, great story. It's CRAZY how women
will start telling you how “sweet” and “cute”
and “nice” you are when you tease them.
***QUESTION***
David, I downloaded your book a few weeks ago and
like a dumbass I put off reading it until
yesterday. I read it straight through and tried
some of your methods later that night... I was
talking to a little hottie and she was giving mad
attitude which I immediately called her out on and
then pulled out the "I know something no one else
who's known you for 5 min" thing and she ate it up
like it was her last meal. Throughout the night
with plenty of C/F, she was like my siamese twin.
Truly incredible since I had just read your book a
few hours before and I have braces! What are some
other "profound comments" that I can throw into my
game? I can't wait to get the advanced series, and
I've got a new outlook on life. Can't thank you
enough.
T
>>>MY COMMENTS:
Yes, I have a profound comment for you:
SAY NOTHING.
This is one of my favorites... so let me tell
you about it.
Women LOVE to say things just to see what you'll
do or say in response.
Have you ever had a woman mention sex early
on in a conversation?
Or maybe a woman will ask a shocking question
like “When was the last time you slept with a
woman?” or “How many women have you slept with?”
or “I have been with a few women... what do you
think of that?”.
Or maybe a woman will DO something crazy, like
push her boobs together and ask if you think
she should get implants.
I'm sure you've been there.
These are all things that women do to TEST you
and see what you're all about.
This is yet another topic that deserves an
entire newsletter... so I'll give you the
short version.
One of my favorite responses is to just look
back at her with a blank look, and say
NOTHING AT ALL.
No response.
No facial expression.
No nervous ticks.
No excited looks.
NOTHING.
I'll let the tension build for about 5 or
10 seconds.
They I'll usually fire back some kind of Cocky
& Funny comment like “Does that usually work?”.
Of course, this totally short-circuits whatever
she did, and usually gets a deer-in-the-
headlights look with an “I'm so innocent”
question of “What do you mean by that?”.
Of course, I usually respond with “You know
EXACTLY what I mean”.
Remember, when you're in one of these situations,
the most PROFOUND comment you can make is often
NO comment.
Great question.
You're going to FREAK when you watch my
Advanced Series...
***Success Story***
I got your e-book and additional materials and I
want to say thank you. I already did many of the
things you teach (unintentionally) because that's
what comes naturally, but now I have a much better
understanding as to why it works and what I can do
better, because let's face it, if I was satisfied
with my success I wouldn't be here. I've always
been good at approaching women, getting their
numbers and keeping them interested, but I've
always messed up 'closing escrow'. Your 'pull them
to you', 'Push them away' technique is working,
the hardest part is being patient and not rushing
in.
I took a girl out last weekend to the park for a
picnic (inexpensive experience) with the key
ingredient (sexy food as you advised): cherries
(1lb). I was looking for the cherries to do their
magic and by the time we got to dessert, we were
feeding each other increasing the level of sensual
activity leaped exponentially. Then using your
'pull-push' technique, I would stop and say "Now
you cannot rub me there in a public park" and
would move her hand away from my crotch. Then I
would start again and stop. I made some comments
suggesting that I would be willing to 'allow' her
to touch me more in private, but she didn't take
the bait and wanted to continue a 'public display'.
As you recommend, I cut the picnic short and said
I had to do some work - I run my own business, so
it was plausible even on a weekend. She emailed
the next day and wants to see me again.
The trouble is how to get her from A to B (public
place to bedroom) without giving the game away? I
know you suggest making an excuse - before I read
your materials, I have used grocery shopping i.e.,
taking the bags back to my place- but anyone can
figure what the hidden motive is. If a girl asks
you to her place for 'coffee', you never end up
boiling a kettle. So should I be more direct or
should I wait for her to suggest it?
Thanks in advance.
-H (London)
>>>MY COMMENTS:
This is an interesting question.
I don't really think that you need to make any
“excuses”.
I think that your mistake was that you got too
frisky with her in public, then actually told
her that you'd be willing to “allow” her to do
more with you in private.
Both might have been bad, in your case.
If I were you, I would have:
1) Not let things get so heavy in the park.
2) Not mentioned being with her in private.
3) Ended the picnic, then casually led her to
your car, and took her to your place.
Remember, if you give a woman something to
resist, she usually will.
So don't.
In fact, it's often better to put things out
there as a playful CHALLENGE instead.
If a woman wants to see my house, I often say
“I'm not sure about this... I don't know if I
trust you. I'll tell you what. You can only
come in for a minute, and no funny business”.
If I were you, I'd:
1) Wait a day to email her back.
2) Wait at least a couple of days to see her
3) Keep yourself busy, and date other women.
4) Invite her over, and cook dinner.
You take things from there...
And pay careful attention to the comments I
made above. You're almost there...
***QUESTION***
Hey David,
I just bought a copy of your ebook and I think its
absolutely fantastic and to put it plainly
'right-on'. (This is coming from a guy who used to
think that any kind of book on dating would be a
load of crap). Your ideas have changed my beliefs.
Now I think I'm getting the C&F down pretty well...
but I recently went out on a date with a 7.5 and
we had a blast but there were one or two moments
during the date when both of us ran out of things
to say and so all I could think of was C&F so I
ended up blurting out ... "So why don't you tell
me an exciting story? If it's really good then I
might consider taking you out again and you can
even pay if you want!" This cracked her up and I
even ended up setting another date with her but I
was just wondering what I should do for future
occasions if such a situation ever arises!
Thanks!
Mo
>>>MY COMMENTS:
The thing that determines whether or not a silence
is “uncomfortable” is what happens RIGHT AFTER
IT.
In other words, most men get all kinds of nervous
if there is a silence... and by the time they
think of something to say, they SOUND nervous.
If you just realize that silences are normal, and
allow them to happen, you'll solve about 80% of
the problems that go along with them.
Don't let silences bother you.
When they happen (and they always do), just pick
the conversation back up later.
Again, most men let silences freak them out.
When you do this, then start acting nervous, it
INSTANTLY lets a woman know that you're trying
to impress her, and that you care too much about
what she thinks of you...
Which, of course, makes your concern backfire on
you.
Stay cool.
Don't let a silence bother you.
***SUCCESS STORY***
David,
I have been receiving your e-mails for almost a
month now and I am learning more about women than
I ever thought possible. Anyways, I used to always
have problems understanding when and what women
wanted from me. I've always seemed to make the
wrong move at the wrong time, and I've paid dearly
for it in many instances. BUT I now know the error
of my ways. Last week a very hot girl (thanks to
some of your suggestions) and I were sitting at my
place watching her favorite movie, the Princess
Bride, (all in all not a bad movie) when the power
suddenly went out. I had nothing to do with it, I
swear (wink, wink :) ). So after the initial shock
wore off for her we began talking and I used your
how-to-know-when-a-woman-wants-to-be-kissed
concept. And you know what? It worked! Not that I
was very surprised but I was a little. Thank you
so much for your thoughts and I'll soon be
ordering your advanced series.
JS, Vegas
>>>MY COMMENTS:
Yea, “The Kiss Test” is a great one.
One of my favorites.
I love ideas that rejection-proof the process.
***COMMENT FROM A WOMAN***
Dear David,
A friend of mine (male) just forwarded your
newsletters to me to take a look at. He wanted my
candid (female) opinion on what you were saying.
After reading them over and checking out your site
(yea, you hooked me, I signed up for the
newsletter too) I love this stuff you're telling
these guys, keep it up!
Cocky & funny is totally the way to go. More
often than not, I see a guy in a club or coffee
shop, laundry mat (where ever) and they're sexxy,
hot, attractive or whatever and THEN they speak...
Its all over. No wit, no intelligence, no spark...
nothing. Sure they're great to look at, but thats
'bout it. And the guys that are witty and
intelligent are too scared to approach me. Now, I
just want to print out everything on your site and
hand it out like candy on Halloween to random guys.
A little about me...I'm 30, short? 5'2" bout
120ish lbs asian/irish combo and I consider myself
to be somewhere in the range of a 7-8, though most
guys I know throw me somewhere up over 10. I have
an awesome personality, am attractive, intelligent
and I know exactly what I want, when I want it and
am not afraid to say it.
And this thing you say about females being
competitive, lol! Its soooo true. My girl
friends hate me but come to me with every question
imaginable about how to deal with men, they call
me the heart breaker and of course they all tell
me I should write a book.
I have a large number of male friends and from
them I've learned this one valuable thing...Men
are incredibly easy to read, its a shame. They
truely get trapped in this cycle of behavior
patterns and have no way out, which makes them
semi-unattractive to the opposite sex. I'm not in
a successful relationship because it ALWAYS ends
with this confident and intelligent guy turning
into a blob of lime jello in my presence.
It starts like this, I meet guy, date guy (or
whatever use your imagination) he falls head over
heels WAY too fast then transforms from this
attractive appealing person to...yea jello. Most
of the girls I know want to know the secret to
turning a guy into mush and having them right
where they want them, but fail to understand that
its BORING! Women are somewhat like men and want
to be stimulated, though it does take different
things to stimulate women than men, but its a
basic common sense concept.
You keep telling these guys that chicks may think
they want the same old blah blah blah, but they
really don't, they want the...omfg RaR~!! Give
them that and they're totally yours...
Unless of course its me, then they'll always need
to change up to keep me interested, cuz i'm one in
a million (lol) I'd send you my picture and open
a correspondence with you because you seem hella
interesting and get "it", but then you'd fall
madly in love with me and abandon your technique...
then i'd have to break your heart ;)
D in MA
>>>MY COMMENTS:
All men should be forced to read this email every
day for 30 days in a row before they're allowed
to have their 18th birthday party.
AMEN sister!
By the way, if there's one thing you can bet
money on, it's that I'm not falling in love with
you because you send me a picture.
But it was a nice thought.
For you, I mean.
***SUCCESS STORY***
Seriously, dude, where were you 16 years ago when
I could have really used this stuff?
Not that I'm not having fun using it right now.
Your advice is pure gold. If there's a guy out
there on the fence right now about trying out the
C+F routine, hop off that fence and start using
it.
I recently divorced and started a new job, and
there's a hottie there that I'm not interested in
dating but has been a great test subject. I bust
her balls all the time, and she eats it up! I've
been getting free lunches out of the deal and get
to be seen with a beautiful woman, so there's no
downside.
Here's where your stuff really helped out, though.
One day she comes to my cubicle and I'm doing the
C+F thang -- when she suddenly gets pouty and calls
me mean. She says, with a frowny face, "I don't
like the way you keep making fun of me." Well, this
is certainly new behavior on her part, because up
until now she's been loving it. Then the light bulb
goes off in my head -- this is a test! "If you
don't like it," I respond very matter-of-factly,
"then don't smile so much when I do it." Her frown
melted into a smile and she invited me out to
another free lunch!
David, I swear, a few years back I would have
failed this test. I would have apologized for
making fun of her, immediately complimented her in
some way and made a total wimp out of myself. But
not now -- thanks to you!
P.S. -- You should have heard the guys in my
department after this little exchange. They
couldn't believe how smooth and calm I was. I
immediately sent them all a copy of your
newsletter.
-- P in Minneapolis
>>>MY COMMENTS:
Your response is CLASSIC Cocky & Funny.
“...then don't smile so much when I do it...”
LOVE IT... love it.
This is the way to communicate with women.
This is it.
Thanks... great story.
***QUESTION***
David...
Kudos on the Advanced Series CD set and the
eBook...it's absolutely phenomenal material! I'm
really feeling my confidence skyrocket with every
listen and application of this stuff. WOW!!!!
The other day, I was out at Borders Bookstore and
saw this very attractive girl reading a book, and
she looked deep in thought. Knowing that girls who
look like her are often treated like they are only
all beauty and no brains, I walk up to her and ask,
"Is this seat taken?" and sit down with her and
say, "I saw you sitting here and you looked like
you were very deep in thought and wanted to know...
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...what is on your mind?" David, she MELTED!!! I
hardly had to talk for the rest of 10-15 minutes I
was with her, because she was so excited that
someone saw her for her brains and not her boobs
(reallllly nice ones, at that...lol). I told her I
had to go and gave her MY NUMBER...and my phone has
been ringing off the hook!!!! This is a really
important concept you've harped on before: noticing
the typically unnoticed aspects of a woman - if
she's brainy and only modestly pretty, emphasize
her beauty and if a woman is very attractive, make
sure to stroke her intellect because these girls
never have attention paid to their mind, only to
their body. Woman LOVE IT that you notice these
unnoticed things about them...it makes them feel
like there is some sort of "cosmic connection"
between you and Her.
Now to the questions......In your CD Series, you
talk about setting the "ground rules" with women in
the very beginning of the relationship. One was
about telling a woman that your house is a place
with a calm, positive vibe and that no drama is
tolerated and the other was telling a woman that
you have zero intentions of starting a relationship
anytime soon. Now, these are awesome ideas that I
want to come across but do I tell the girls
directly or do I 'convey' them somehow? If so, how
do I convey these ideas??
Thanks A Lot!!!
D, Indiana
>>>MY COMMENTS:
In short, BOTH.
When it comes to my house, and telling a woman
the “rules” of being in my house, I like to tell
her DIRECTLY.
I lay it all out.
Why?
Why not imply it somehow?
Because in this case, telling her IS implying
something. But it's something ELSE.
When I lay down the rules for being in my house,
I'm communicating something FAR more important
to her.
I'm communicating that I'm in CONTROL of the
situation... and that this is MY territory.
Get it?
Remember in the Advanced Series when I explain
that women are ALWAYS interpreting the things
you say? And that you have to learn how to STOP saying things directly, and start saying
everything by IMPLYING?
Well, this is a case of implying by saying
something ELSE directly.
I know, deep, man.
Great question...
And by the way, if you're reading this right
now, and you're ready to take your success
with women to an entirely different level,
then I have a few things to tell you...
First, I want to ask you something.
What is it that's holding you back?
What's stopping you from having success with
women?
Think about it for a minute.
Now I have something REALLY interesting to
share with you...
YOU'RE WRONG.
See, I know that most guys have a “secret
reason” why they fail with women.
Maybe it's that they're too short.
Or maybe it's because they're too old.
Or maybe it's because they're bald.
Whatever it is, it's THE big reason.
Unfortunately, most guys walk around with
their “secret reason”, and use it to explain
to themselves why NOTHING can EVER work for
them.
As they read these newsletters, in their minds
they're constantly saying “That's a great story,
but that would never work for ME because of
my secret reason...”.
Are you with me here?
Well guess what...
WE ALL HAVE A SECRET REASON.
But the fact is that you're WRONG.
Your secret reason IS ABSOLUTELY NOT the
reason why you don't have the kind of success
with women that you'd like to have.
The REAL reason why you don't have the level
of success you want is because you're not
DOING ANYTHING about it.
I have spent a lot of time getting to know a
lot of guys who are successful with women.
And guess what?
MOST of them are NOT what you would expect.
Sure, I know a few guys that are tall, rich,
and handsome.
But the MAJORITY of guys that I know who are
successful with women are AVERAGE OR BELOW
in MOST areas of their lives.
I know at least 4 or 5 SHORT guys who date
so many hot women it would make your head
spin.
Most of the guys I know who are really good
with women make average incomes.
...and on and on.
I now believe 100% that you can overcome any
little “disadvantage” that you have, and go on
to become VERY successful with women.
One more thing...
I've spent a LOT of time putting my eBook and
other products together.
Think about this for a moment...
What if I asked you to spend a few YEARS of
your life, thousands of dollars of your own
money, and all kind of hard work and effort
to learn something?
What if I told you that at the end of that
time, I wanted to have you create a program
that taught me everything you learned, but I
was only going to pay you a couple of hundred
bucks to do it?
What would you say?
You'd probably laugh at me.
Well, that's what I'VE done myself.
I've spent YEARS figuring out this area of
my life for MYSELF. I took the time to try
all kinds of crazy ideas, and test everything
I learned.
Most of it didn't work.
Most of it sucked.
I wasted more time trying stupid things than
anyone I know.
But the good news is that I figured it out.
I took myself from not being able to even walk
over and talk to a woman to being able to date
the most beautiful and intelligent women alive.
And now I've created the programs that I WISH
I had when I started.
I'm serious about this.
I always ask myself “What do I wish I had when
I started”... and I go from there.
Finally, I've been doing something lately that
is UNHEARD OF...
In the past, I got a lot of emails that said
things like “If your stuff is so great, why
don't you send me a free copy, and if it works
for me, I'll pay you...”.
I just laughed and said “Yea, right, whatever”.
But the more I thought about it, the more I
realized that this was the way I PERSONALLY
would like things to be when I buy things.
So guess what?
I tried it.
And it seems to be working pretty well.
Here's the deal:
If you want to download my eBook, I'll let you do it on a FREE TRIAL.
That's right, you don't have to pay up front
for it.
If you like it, keep it. If not, you don't pay.
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I'll talk to you again soon.
Your Friend,
David D.
David DeAngelo is the author of “Double Your Dating - What Every Man Should Know About How To Be Successful With Women”, and has taught thousands of men how to be more successful with women and dating.
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